This is the third edition of our monthly interaction with Gary and again his answers continue to give enormous insight. Info on how to send questions are at the end.

The number of questions was down this month which is good as Gary is very busy. The release of 'Exile' has been pushed back to September 1996 due to the Castle Communications compilation release of covers and the possibility that Gary will be signing with them in the New Year. I don't think the added time Gary has spent answering our questions and getting his WWW site running were solely to blame for the delay :-)

Again some questions have been reworded. I've done this to save duplication, clarify and in some cases, enable us to get more info from Gary. Try to avoid open ended questions or being critical in unconstructive ways. Remember, this is Gary you are addressing, not a record company exec.

Q1. Are you and your brother John very close to each other (i.e. like doing
    activities together outside of the music business and flying)?

Thanks for all the music and inspiration over the years!

A1. Yes, we are very close. To ask about activities outside of flying would
    perhaps be ignoring the very heart of what brings us so closely
    together in that we both share the same obsessions albeit with a
    slightly different emphasis. Johnis a professional airline pilot who
    also flies display aeroplanes and tours with me each year as my
    keyboard player.

    I, as you know, am a professional musician who also flies aeroplanes as
    a hobby. However, we have also passed driving tests for a motorcycle
    licence I did mine on December 1 '94 and John a few months ago. I have
    a Yamaha XV535 Virago cruiser and John has a Yamaha Diversion. I'm also
    going to buy a sportsbike faily soon as the Virago is a pig to keep
    clean in our wonderful climate and so I'm going to make it a summer
    bike only.

Q2. Would you consider dying your hair blonde for the next LP photo
    sessions?

A2. No

Q3. Can you clear up something with the Dream Corrosion video?  When you
    sing "Only, mine's broke down" the mic is at your side when 'only' is.
    Not that I care if it was 'pre' or 're'-recorded, but was it just an
    accidental slip that was dubbed over later?

A3. It certainly wasn't pre-recorded. I did have to red-do one chorus and
    verse on Are 'Friends' Electric? because the engineer in the mobile
    allowed the tape to run out before starting the second machine. I had
    to edit in the music from other parts of the song and then re-sing
    those parts. It wasn't the bit that you mentioned though so I can only
    guess that Kipper or Ade was singing along. I've looked at the video
    and to be honest can't make out who did it. I could go back and dig out
    the 2" tape but I'm a bit busy at the moment so we'll just have to
    wonder.

Q4. "Down in the Park" appeared in the 'Urgh a Music War' film.  As it is
    the same recording from the 'Living Ornaments' concerts I assume the
    entire Sept. 16, 1980 show at Hammersmith exists on film.  Would you
    consider releasing that on video even though it would be similar to
    Micromusic?  Or is that up to Beggars Banquet?

A4. I don't know who owns the rights to the music on that film although it
    certainly isn't me. I'm not sure that the entire concert was recorded
    either come to think of it. As for it being released in the future I
    would imagine that if I was to see some more success any old piece of
    film lying around would suddenly find its way to the public. If it
    exists of course.

Q5. Are you aware you head-bang at your shows (specifically, during Films)?
    It surprises me, as much of the appeal of your image during the "early
    years" was your constraint in moving. I know this may not fit in with
    your current attitude towards performing or song interpetation, but, I
    feel it makes the older songs seem a bit too 'rocking' as they seemed
    top be intended to provoke a doom-laden feeling originally.  You do
    'ROCK' on some later songs but the Gary Numan most of your fans relate
    to with the Replicas/Telekon era is very different to the Gary Numan on
    the later albums.  Judging by your fans' reactions at the end of the DC
    video I'm  sure I'm not alone in my views.  What's your perspective?

A5. I had no idea that 'much of the appeal of the early eighties was my
    constraint in moving' and I'm very sad to hear that you think that is
    the case. My songs are intended to provoke whatever I want to provoke,
    then and now, and if I feel like changing that original feel with a
    different version of the same song then I feel that is my right. It's
    hard enough having to give so much control of my music over to record
    companies as it is without having my very movement on stage dictated to
    me as well. I find it amazing that I should be expected to move in a
    certain way because of the year that a song was recorded in. How boring
    it would be for me, and surely for the audience, if I were to move the
    same way, to the same song, year after year after year. If that is
    genuinely how you and others feel I can only suggest, and I honestly
    don't mean to take the piss, that you buy an early video and settle for
    that.

    I still stay fairly static during songs like 'Down In The Park',
    whenever I do it that is, but I thought the current live version of
    'Films' had a quite awesome amount of energy in it and to stand still
    would have gone against every molecule in my body that was crying out
    to be thrashed up and down.

    Regarding the people talking at the end of the Dream Corrosion video I
    again don't think I see what you appear to see. The people seemed to
    have enjoyed the show very much, including the choice of songs and the
    performance in general. I'm sure about that because I edited the film
    with my friend Nicky Robson and I would not have used anything that was
    less than flattering now would I? To be honest nobody said anything
    negative at all so we just picked the most bubbly personalities.

Q6. I seem to be the ONLY Numanoid on Earth who recognizes the difference
    between the single version and the video version of I Die: You Die. I
    know it was released as a limited white label A-side but I would really
    like to see it released on CD.  Could you urge BB to use it on any
    future BB Numan CD? releases? It could have been included on the recent
    UK re-issues of '93.  Do you have to get BB's permission to include alt.
    versions of BB tracks on the IMAGES recordings?

A6. The only one including me it would seem as I wasn't aware of the video
    being different either. I've also never heard of a limited white label
    release but Beggars may have done so without telling me I suppose. I'll
    urge them if I remember the next time I talk to them which is about once
    every 3 or 4 years at the moment. I don't actually ask permission as the
    numbers are so low on 'Images' that nobody cares.

Q7. I was wondering if you are religious at all or what exactly your
    views on religion and God are?  You make a lot of references to God in
    your lyrics and I was very curious about this.

I would like to also add that I have been a loyal fan of yours since
1979 and am glad that you makes the music that you do. To me you have a
sound all your own and are in a class by yourself. I look forward to every
album you make.


A7. I am not religious, quite the opposite. It would seem, particularly at
    the moment, that in certain countries to deny having faith is virtually
    to admit to being a woshipper of the devil. Such is the fear, hate and
    hostility created by the believers of this so called all forgiving God.


    I worship nothing. Not a good lie nor a dark one. If nature is proof of
    God's amazing creation then I have truly seen the light, and the light
    is black. Nature is genius at its most cruel and savage. No benevolent
    God could have come up with such an outrage.

    I'm often told that 'ours is not to reason why'. But surely, if you
    believe, then you must also believe that our ability to question is a
    God given ability. If we are not to use such an ability, given to us by
    God, then surely, in effect, we deny part of God's creation. Does anyone
    honestly believe that little Gary Numan, asking a few questions here on
    this small island, can honestly be a threat to a being that created the
    entire Universe in just six days? Of course not. Why then do these
    devout believers feel so much danger from a simple question. Why is
    violence so much a part of following 'the rightous path'. I don't
    understand the fanatacism and damage that such 'goodness' creates.

    I'm told that we all have a choice in what path we follow. Good or evil.
    In England a while ago a small baby boy was horrifically tortured and
    then cut up by two other, slightly older children. Explain to me the
    choice that poor child had. Show me the mercy of God. He suffered a
    long, bloody, screaming, agonising death. If the rest of the world was a
    haven of piece and tranquility, which sadly it is not, that one atrocity
    alone would convince me that God does not exist. At least not in the way
    the church and its followers would have us believe.

   It seems that I could be in danger of ruining my newly reborn career, in
   certain parts of the world, before it has even begun just by saying these
   things, by upsetting the self proclaimed rightous majority. I watch it
   all with a growing sense of doom and forboding and remain thankful that I
   live in England.

   The new album 'Exile', without me intending it when I began, has become
   almost entirely focused on my views about this subject. The following
   lyric is a small section from a new song called 'Prophecy' which kind of
   illustrates my point:

        We are deceived
        Valhalla is falling
        We are betrayed
        We are lost and forsaken.
        He's sold the World
        Sold us all to the hunger
        The body of Christ
        Is as black as his soul.

        The word of the Lord
        Is the lie of your Father
        This mortal sin
        Is a voice of shame
        Look at the storm
        Like a dying apostle
        Cruel and divine
        Like the ghost of man.

   If this offends anyone I don't care. If people turn away from me because
   this is how I feel. I don't care.

I'm a mechanical engineer who works on aircraft support equipment. Being a
mechanical engineer, I am particularly partial to your song "Engineers".

Q8.  How did you end up being a member of an acrobtic flying team?

A8.  When I bought my Harvard aeroplane in 1984 I was approached and invited
     to join a group of other Harvard owners simply to fly around together.
     That casual arrangement, over a few years, grew into a highly skilled
     formation team. I also fell in love with aerobatics and so I just
     merged the two disciplines into one display item.

Q9.  What do you like and dislike about the Harvard?  What other airfaft
     have you flown?

A9.  It has a number of things that are less than an ideal. The roll rate is
     poor, it's underpowered, any number of flaws really but that's what
     makes it what it is. It is a piece of aviation history so the flaws are
     actually part of the pleasure of flying such a machine.

Q10.  Any chance of doing a display in the USA some day?

A10. It would be nice. I would need someone to lend me their aeroplane
     though as I couldn't really bring mine over.

Good luck to you and happy flying.

Q11. Hello, Gary! I'm one of your US fans who's planning a trip across the
     pond to see you on your 1996 tour next spring. I was wondering if you
     might considering offering for sale, at the concert souvenir tables,
     some of the fan club CDs, such as Radial Pair and the Babylon series,
     as they're pretty damn hard to come by over here. If any copies are
     left over by April, you can be sure I'll pick them up. And of course
     I'll look forward to meeting you at the post-gig hotel party.

A11. I doubt that we will make them available at the concerts as we have to
     specialise a little on tour but they are all available on the NuWORLD
     web site. NuWORLD is now on-line for test and feedback purposes, prior
     to its official start day of January 1 1996. You can look in on it and
     order stuff if you wish by browsing http://www.numan.co.uk

     Hopefully, a mirror site courtesy of Joey Lindstrom will be operating
     on the other side of the ocean soon for non Europeans.

Q12. Not so much a question as a comment, or a piece of information. A few
     weeks ago you said selecting a set list was tough because you often
     didn't really know what fans wanted to hear. It so happens I conducted
     a poll on this digest a few months back, and here are the 4 most
     popular song choices submitted by folks on the net:

     Crash; Telekon; The Aircrash Bureau; The Joy Circuit.

A12.Interesting that 3 of them are from the Telekon album considering I've
    written over 300 songs. Also interesting when I look back and remember
    that the Telekon album, at the time, sold very much less than Replicas
    and Pleasure Principle. How opinions seem to change over the years and
    how difficult it makes it for me to take any notice of them at times. A
    top 30 would be VERY interesting.

I've been a fan since 1980.  First off I would like to thank you, Gary for
contributing so much to my life and also for taking the time out of your
busy schedule to answer fans' questions.

Q13a. My question is have you ever considered making a CD-Rom.  Even if it
      was only offered to your fanclub members I would think it would be
      very successful.  I have a friend in California who worked on the
      CD-Rom for the Residents titled Gingerbread Man and as soon as I saw
      it I thought this would be great for Numan.  I hope you consider it.
      Thank you for everything,

Michel Lafontaine (102162.2077@compuserve.com) of Montreal, Quebec, Canada asks:

Q13b. Have you given any thoughts on putting out a CD rom like others have
      done recently ? (Again if there were no constraints)

A13a and b.  I have looked at it, but not with any great intention of
     actually doing one. It seems to me that they require a fair degree of
     money to produce and to make one for the fan club only would in no way
     get that money back. As an example I was asked by the fan club members
     for years, almost 12 in fact, to put out a Numan calander. This year we
     did just that and sold less than 450 in total. That's a very small
     percentage of fan club members and I will definitely NOT be making
     another one. It cost me a lot of money, a LOT of money, and a CD-Rom
     would appear to have a much larger potential for eating my wallet than
     a calander. If things improve in the future I would certainly love to
     have a go at doing one for the creative vibe of it.

Q14. Do you ever intend to do a concert in Ireland?  There are still quite a
     number of your fans interested in seeing you in concert here.  Thanks
     for many years of excellent Music.

A14. It depends on how the career goes. Success brings with it the financial
     security of being able to travel without taking out a second mortgage.
     Touring in England costs me in excess of =A35,000 a day now, and that is
     after years of fine tuning our operation. In the past it has been as
     much as =A330,000 a day. As you know, or may do, in the early days I
     regularly lost a small fortune every time I went out on tour. I can't
     do that anymore, I don't sell enough records to make up for that kind
     of loss, so I have to be very careful about where I play. Hopefully, if
     the new record deal comes along, that situation will change. I hope so.

Q15. Could you tell us a bit about Richard Beasley. He seems to be the quiet
     man of the current band and doesn't get the coverage that Kipper, Ade,
     John etc seem to get.


A15. Richard Beasley is 32 years old I think. I see him regularly, as I do
     Ade Orange. Richard now lives near Richmond, Surrey, which is kind of
     West London although not officially. He is married, although seperated,
     awaiting a divorce. I don't really know much more apart from the fact
     that he is a brilliant drummer and great fun on tour.

Q16. You used to say that each tour was better than the last. Is this still
     the case or is there a particular tour you look back on and say "That's
     the one" ?


A16. The Dream Corrosion tour was my favourite and the OMD support that
     followed it strangely enough.

Q17. In what ways are you looking to make Exile different to Sacrifice ?

A17. Heavier percussion/drums. More anthemic. Very strong and heavy lyrics.
     A more raw and aggressive guitar style (on songs that have guitar that
     is).

Thanks for all the good times over the years. Don't forget us here in
Ireland come tour time and don't tell anyone but I quite like Outland as well.

Hi Gary...

When I was growing up as a gay kid (I was 11 in 1979), your lyrics on some
songs such as Jo The Waiter, etc etc, and various reasonably positive
"gay-friendly" lyrics in other songs helped me a great deal to come to
terms with myself (And Everyday I Die helped me come to terms with
something else, but lets not go into that !!) Well, I realise youre not
gay, but all the same, thanks so much for helping me come through my
teenage turmoil!

Anyway, when I saw you were playing the G.A.Y. club in London last year I
was thrilled ! I had assumed that after your support of the extremely
homophobic conservative party in the 80s that a gay club was the last place
you would play ! Anyway...

Q18. I realise you're not a big fan of discussing politics, but could you
     give me an idea on where you stand politically, and what your views on
     the gay age of consent are ? (Currently its 18 for gay men and 16 for
     everyone else...)

A18. First of all I supported the Conservative Party, many years ago
     now, for their stance on things other than homosexuality, which I
     believe was the case for most of the non Gay community of Great
     Britain. Please don't make the slightly naive mistake of believing
     that all Conservative voters are, are were, anti gay.

     I'm not that inclined to talk about where I stand politically actually.
     I'm anti socialist and always will be, but then Labour appears to be
     anti Socialist as well at the moment doesn't it? I don't really stand
     anywhere. The Conservatives are in a mess, Labour changes it's tune
     simply to get into office which doesn't exactly inspire belief or
     confidence and the others are a waste of space anyway.

     I feel that the gay age of consent should be the same as the non gay
     age of consent. It would seem that the government feel that any gay
     feelings that young people may have may have been 'grown out of' by the
     age of 18 which I think is insulting and not particularly intelligent.
     Let people experiment, safely, with who or whatever consents to
     experiment with them and forget about the 'age of consent' law
     altogether.

Q19. Can you delve that far back in your memory and fill in the questions
     marks?

title on bootleg               title as announced on recording
----------------               -------------------------------
Motherless Faces                         ?
Boys                                    same
Blue Eyes                               same
You Don't Know Me                        ?
My Shadow In Vain                       same
Me My Head                              same
That's Too Bad                          same
Basic J                                 same
Do Your Best (Friends)                  same
Oh! Didn't I Say                        same
I'm A Poseur                            same
Kill Sir Joy                       Pure Saint Joy


A19. Not all of them.

     Motherless faces was actually called 'Positive Thinking'
     You Don't Know Me could be correct.
     Kill Sir Joy was called Kill St Joy after the owner of the Roxy Club, a
     man called Kevin St John, wanted certain unsavoury things from me.

Q20. Can you remember anything about the Live At The Roxy '78/Vortex '78
     7" single bootleg?  The tracks listed for this one are:

        White Light - White Heat b/w Bunch Of Stiffs

     and "Bunch Of Stiffs" is listed as being by Mean Street with you on
     guitar and backing vocals.  This single supposedly being from '78
     leaves me with questions as well as whether the band was really Mean
     Street then.  I can vouch for the single itself since I have it, but I
     cannot vouch for what it actually contains.  Can you help me with these
     very "early" questions?


A20. Again not much. I didn't ever play with Mean Street and so I'm
     definitely not on the Bunch Of Stiffs track. Don't know about the White
     Light, White Heat song though.

Q21. Gary, I really enjoyed listening to the Babylon CDs.  In particular, I
     found "Tribal" to be very interesting.  I was amazed at how different
     the non-chorus parts sounded to the final version, "Call Out The Dogs."
     I was wondering if you have lots of other early versions of songs and
     if so, if you have any plans on releasing them in the future?

A21. I've found one or two bits that are simply unfinished songs but no
     other early versions of things you may know. Future plans for the bits
     are uncertain.

Q22. On an the bootleg "Live At The Roxy 1979," you and the old Tubeway Army
     band played a number of early punk songs that sounded great but I have
     never heard of anywhere else (e.g. "I'm A Poser," "Pure St. Joy,"
     "Motherless Faces," "Boys," "You Don't Know Me," and "Me, My Head").
     Can you recall (and I realise this was all a *long* time ago) if you
     recorded studio versions of the "Live At The Roxy 1979" songs along
     with all the others which would later appear on _Tubeway Army_, _The
     Plan_ and all the early singles?  If you did, is it reasonable to
     assume that Beggar's Banquet has yet to release all of the early
     material?

A22. Don't think so. I'm quite sure that everything that Beggars had
     recorded of my early stuff has now seen the light of day.

Q23. I have many favourite songs of yours, but one of the most treasured is
     the song "Cry, The Clock Said."  Of all the songs you have ever
     written, this one still stands out of the crowd as being distinctly
     unique, with its long intro, haunting violin sounds by Nash the Slash,
     creative yet very personal lyrics, and overall feel of melancholy mixed
     with contemplation.  I was hoping you could say a few things about this
     song, from what inspired you to write it as you did to how you feel
     about it today, 15 years later.  Incidentially, I think this song would
     sound great live with the new _Sacrifice_ style and hope you consider
     using it.

A23. The Dance album had a slightly self indulgent feel to it all the way
     through so I was quite happy to let the 'Cry, The Clock Said' song have
     such a long intro. I don't think I had any special concept behind it
     other than that's how it felt it should go at the time. A long, slow
     build. It was concerned, as much of my early stuff was, with people
     that I had felt had let me down. I can't remember much more. I'd
     forgotten that Nash was even on it.

Thanks for answering these questions and putting out such great music
year after year!

Brian Hammond

Dear Gary,

Let me first of all begin by thanking you profusely for the many years
of great music. Most of my teen years were spent listening almost
exclusively to your albums.

Q24. It is patently obvious that you have never received your fair share of
     credit for the innovative and refreshing musical styles you have
     pioneered, and continue to pioneer. Instead, when the music press has
     not been hurling abuse at you and your music, they have completely
     ignored your significant musical contributions. What I would like to
     ask you is what you personally feel the reason is for such hostile
     reactions towards you, while many groups with little or no talent
     receive a disproportionate amount of exposure. I am more interested in
     your opinion as to WHY you are subjected to this negativity, rather
     than a list of who put you down and when.

A24. Hard to say without asking each and every person why they wrote what
     they did. I do believe that a group mentality exists that make certain
     people fashionable to be 'in' to and others not. It takes a brave man
     or woman in a newspaper/magazine office to praise someone that is 'not'
     favoured. It may even be that the majority of people in that office
     actually do like that person or band but won't admit to it for fear of
     being seen as ou of touch perhaps. I don't know for sure but that may
     have something to do with some of it. At the moment I seem to be
     enjoying the early stirrings of my first ever taste of being 'in'.

Q25. I read a while ago that you were once forced to land in Vishakapatnam,
     in India, when you were flying around in the mid-80s, and that you
     were actaully detained there for a few days while the Indian
     authorities determined whether you were involved in subversive
     activities. Being Indian, I would be very interested to hear about
     what actually happened, how you were treated there, and about your
     general impressions of the country. You can be honest, as I won't take
     any offense if the incident didn't leave you with particularly fond
     memories.

A25. We made an emergency landing in Vishakhapatnam due to a rough running
     engine in my Cessna. We were then arrested, unofficially, and kept
     under house arrest for 4 days while they decided whether we were spies,
     smugglers or just adventurers. I thought they treated us very badly,
     bursting into our rooms in the early hours of the morning demanding
     that we tell them things we didn't know and that we be 'co-operative',
     whatever that meant. They confiscated our passports, would only let us
     travel to a telex machine under armed guard and exposed all of our
     film, movie and 35mm still, that we had been shootng for a BBC program
     about our round the world flight. Vishakhapatnam was, without meaning
     to be rude, a complete pighole. However the people throughout India,
     outside of officialdom, were excellent and were some of the happiest,
     friendliest people that I have ever met. The country is vast and
     impoverished apart from the tiny few of great wealth.  While I was in
     Calcutta I was befriended by a boy who gave me a great story
     about having to support his entire family and that all he needed was
     his own rickshaw and he could then be a wealthy man. I bought him the
     rickshaw business before I left. I would love to know if he actually
     made anything out of it or whether he was just conning me.

Q26. Which neighborhood of Los Angeles did you live in back in 1982?  Can
     you remember the street or address (no I won't be making a pilgrimage
      :-) ?

A26. I lived at the apartments at the top of Horn Avenue, off Sunset if
     memory still holds, and I had a house that i got to by driving up
     Doheny something or other. I can't remember the address or the name of
     the road that it was on only that it was brilliant, had its own
     swimming pool and was on the top of a hill that overlooked the entire
     city of Los Angeles. Loved it.

To begin I'd just want to say thanks for all the joy you've provided
to us all over the years.  Now for the questions:

Q27. You've explored violins,the fretless bass,the sax and a few other
     stuff; are there any instruments you would like to use or feature if
     you had no constraints whatsoever ?


A27. Not really. I'm more interested in sound than in instruments so it will
     depend on what 'sounds' interest me in the future. That may lead me
     towards a certain insrument. Nothing in mind at the moment though.

Q28. Most of your records have your picture on them except for a few
     singles, why is that as opposed to an artwork of some kind ? I'd love
     to see a contest where the fans could submit ideas for the next sleeve
     design...Subject to your approval of course !

A28. I actually prefer to design my own sleeves thanks. I hadn't really
     thought about it but I suppose the main reasons for having my picture
     on the sleeves is to introduce new images for one thing, it's easier to
     slap on a gppd steely eyes piccy than figure out some clever artwork
     and finally i would have to confess to ego.

Greetings:

I have but one simple question, and this is based on the fact that we do
all kinds of reviews, votes, wish lists, etc.

Q29. "Do you have any questions you would like to ask of us?  Given the
     amount of time and effort you put into responding to ours, it seems
     only fair we provide you with some knowledge you might be interested in
     (assuming there is any)."

Trent (in a still unified country - for now)

A29. I have a vast amount, mainly to people who complain and all of them to
     individuals. Somethings have to be done face to face.

Gary, I can speak for everyone when I say that we are all very excited to
see what tracks you decide to play next tour and put on the next live CD.

Q30. I was wondering if you could give us an idea of any particular tunes
     you have in mind to rehearse, whether they be songs you've never done
     or something you haven't done for quite a while?

A30. Quite a few that I've not done before for sure. Some from way back like
     'Sleep By Windows' are being considered. I'm a long way from really
     getting down to it and deciding though. The Exile album going back has
     thrown a bit of a spanner in the works as well.

Q31. When you performed "My Shadow in Vain" on stage from 1984-1988, you
     changed most of the verses lyrically.  Why was that?


A31. Forgot the words. I wrote that song when I was about 18 so no wonder I
     struggle with that one. I can't remember the words to the song I just
     wrote.

     Before I began writing these answers I wrote the lyric and recorded a
     vocal for a new song called 'An Alien Cure'. It took about an hour or
     so to decide just how to sing it, trying various styles, and I still
     couldn't remember the words. I've got no chance on stage. Strange thing
     is I can remember a mass of speeds, oil pressure and temperature limits
     for the aeroplane, all manner of techy type procedures and numbers but
     I cannot remember my own phone number after having it for years and I
     can't remember my own lyrics.

Q32. Any chances you may re-enter another character or image for future
     albums or are those days long gone?

A32. Maybe. To be absolutely honest it's my age that inhibits me from doing
     that kind of thing now. It doesn't feel right anymore.

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